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When or Who: That is the question February 15, 2016

Filed under: Uncategorized — Amanda Lynn @ 2:14 pm

The When:

Kronos: (Κρόνος) a Greek word meaning chronological or sequential time.

As in 9 o’clock on January 20th 2016


Kairos: (καιρός) a Greek word meaning the right or opportune moment, the supreme moment, signifies a time lapse, a moment of indeterminate time.

As in the timing as determined by God in Galations 4:4-5…

But when the fullness of time had come, God sent forth his Son,

born of woman, born under the law, to redeem those who were under the law,

so that we might receive adoption as sons.

If I asked you, “When was your salvation?”, what would you say? Some may have a quick answer. Others don’t. What if we asked John the Baptist, Rahab, King David, or Sarah? Maybe if every salvation in scripture was given “a moment”, it’d be a lot simpler, huh?

The Who:

Jesus Christ of Nazareth

His full humanity and full Diety, his sinless life, willing death, and glorious resurrection making a way for us to be brought to new life by grace through faith in Him alone.

He (God the Father) has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.

He (Jesus) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him. And he is before all things, and in him all things hold together. And he is the head of the body, the church. He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in everything he might be preeminent. For in him all the fullness of God was pleased to dwell, and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether on earth or in heaven, making peace by the blood of his cross.

:: Colossians 1: 13-20 ::

If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord

and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead,

you will be saved.

:: Romans 10:9 ::


This is what the word says about salvation. Confess His Lordship, and believe in your heart. There are things we see the Spirit doing in those who believe, but this is salvation. No time stamp required nor is one promised.

A marked difference? Sure! A dead soul who was in darkness is reconciled to God and made alive. It’s safe to say there would be some action to agree with that change.

The word does say there are some things we, who are in Christ, will be known by.


 By this all people will know that you are my disciples,

if you have love for one another.

:: John 13:35 ::

Spiritual Fruit

Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.

Thus you will recognize them by their fruits.

:: Matthew 7:15-20 ::


John MacArthur spoke of a Christian being assured of their salvation saying,

Genuine assurance comes from seeing the Holy Spirit’s transforming work in one’s life, not from clinging to the memory of some experience.


And Doctor Russell Moore has this to say on this issue,

The point of the gospel isn’t celebrating an experience; it’s believing a Man who is your crucified, resurrected, reigning Life. It’s important to mark dates as ways of prompting thanksgiving. If you know when you met Jesus, set up an Ebenezer of remembrance in your mind and be grateful. If not, be thankful for life in Christ and mark other dates when He showed himself real and faithful to you.

The crucial matter isn’t whether you remember when the Shepherd pulled you out of the thorn bushes. Maybe you were barely conscious. The critical thing is whether you hear His Voice, maybe somewhere out there in the dark in front of you, calling you forward, right now.


When it comes to understanding the miracle that is salvation, I land somewhere in with the angels who Peter writes about saying,

Concerning this salvation, the prophets who prophesied about the grace that was to be yours searched and inquired carefully, inquiring what person or time the Spirit of Christ in them was indicating when he predicted the sufferings of Christ and the subsequent glories. It was revealed to them that they were serving not themselves but you, in the things that have now been announced to you through those who preached the good news to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven, things into which angels long to look.

:: 1 Peter 1: 10-12 ::


The angels were created before us, the image-bearers of God, whom He offers grace. They spend time in the presence of God praising Him and yet they long to look into the glories of our salvation. Though grace is a mystery to them, the Word says they rejoice over our God restoring and reconciling His creation.

The Word seems replete with more answers about the Who of our salvation than it does about anything else. I am thankful for God’s grace in letting us in on the mystery of salvation being by the Father’s grace in providing the sacrifice of Christ, His victorious resurrection and that faith in Him alone is saving and life-giving.

As to the full complexities of what it means for a spiritually dead soul, an enemy of God, to made right and called a daughter or son…my limited mind cannot fathom this kind of miracle. Yet, by His grace, I have faith that it is as He says. I am His and no thing, nor anyone, nor any circumstance, could change that. I can know that He operates outside of the concept of time as I understand it. Kronos time makes much more sense to me. 60 seconds to a minute, 60 minutes to an hour, 24 hours in one day. His creation of that time is a gift in and of itself.

Kairos time, however, I’m not about to stake my claim on understanding all that. He alone knows about “the fullness of time”. I accept that the Creator of time itself can see it all and operate outside of it. So, if brothers and sisters whom I love can’t place a “moment” on salvation, is it real? Well, who’s doing the saving?



There they were, in a moment thick with anxiety and hanging on a question that begged for grace.

She looked at her sweet friend and asked, “Are we friends?”

Uh…yeah? (*I guess we’re changing the subject*)

“Well, when did we become friends?”

Um…sometime last year?

“I’m saying what really matters is we’re friends now and we both know it.”


We’re all about God being relational and the author of relationship himself. “It’s a relationship, not a religion. It’s a relationship with a person.” Gotcha. Well, most of my relationships don’t have a moment. Some do. (I realize people and God are not the same, but people are the only other relational example we have.)

Wherever we land on this, the questions we ask should all point back to the Who of our salvation. And I do believe the questions we ask of our brothers and sisters should be with the motive of strengthening and/or encouraging them.


We ask you, brothers, to respect those who labor among you and are over you in the Lord and admonish you, and to esteem them very highly in love because of their work. Be at peace among yourselves.  And we urge you, brothers, admonish the idle, encourage the fainthearted, help the weak, be patient with them all. See that no one repays anyone evil for evil, but always seek to do good to one another and to everyone.

:: 1 Thessalonians 5:12-15 ::


Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for he who promised is faithful. And let us consider how to stir up one another to love and good works, not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near.

:: Hebrews 10:23-25 ::


So, we ask questions. “Who is God to you? Who were you before you trusted Christ? Do you see Him loving and living through you? What fruit has grace produced in your life?” Challenging our brothers and sisters is one thing, but we must always point each other to the entirety of the Word and not only our personal convictions.


This is why we pray and ask the Spirit to guide us. This way, we don’t assume the Spirit’s role. More often than not, trying to play the Spirit for others will lead to well-intentioned legalism and/or fear-mongering. I need my sisters in Christ who’ve walked the path ahead of me to point out when I’m getting a little too big for my spiritual britches. This must be why the Word says to pray for one another and to pray continually. I sure need it!


Then, as we encourage one another in testimony-giving, let’s remember HE is the Word of our testimony. This Lamb of God. This Jesus, who is known by the name “The WORD of God”. The Word who always was and then came in flesh and dwelt among us. The Word who breathes life and will end the enemy of our souls with the same breath. This is the testimony that overcomes, this eternal, living, active Word.


I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, “Now the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ have come, for the accuser of our brothers has been thrown down, who accuses them day and night before our God. And they have conquered him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, for they loved not their lives even unto death.

:: Revelation 12:10-11 ::


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